Quoting alestor:1. You still didn't really explain where you get the value from, doesn't the game just report the last traded value, similar to The Exchange? I think you paid a bit too much for something that should be more readily available to all players, not some arbitrary $200k number that sounds right for "experienced players", imo a bit gatekeeping way of thinking. On the other hand you are agreeing with my point that it shouldn't be possible for 1 player to have such a massive control over the land market. So what is it, more access to other players or keep it as it is and completely let the game die when @XDCD gets to 100% of land? The second one's where the game is heading now long-term if no changes are made.
2 + 4. So, in the current economy of the game, land should cost $40-60k, and construction costs $40-60k, making land with retail worth around 80-120k.
3. "Loans get more demand with a price of 200k per land,
every bit of money you spend still ends up going into the economy"
Right.. How does me taking out a loan from your bank, send the full amount to 1 player to buy the land from, and repaying that loan to your bank end up supporting the wider player economy? Loans don't magically create money or value, they just move it around. How many banks in MG do you think can cover and have the cash for multiple $200k loans?
5. You're cherry picking an anecdotal situation from a single player (but props to @PikaDrew for achieving that).
I'm trying to make you understand that you're trying to justify a flawed system that's holding back this community ability to grow.
Okay so a couple things I would like to say are,
Construction cost will realistically not go below ~54k and infact it could be ~60k too so that's a fixed cost which cannot be reduced unless wages go down and wages seem to be keep on going up.
I just checked and there are only 12~ people who have 100k+ networth and are active so most of the player base won't be able to afford the land even if it was only 40k per plot, because even if they do they won't be able to afford construction.
Out of the 12 people there are 6 people who already own 2 or more plots of land. And what Bharat meant by "experienced players" is basically players who are rich, and only they can only get the land because you still at minimum need 120k as you said.
So what I'm trying to say is, even if land was added only these 12 players can afford the land, and only 6 new people will get access to land. Even if lower networth players manage to get access to land they can't afford construction and due to the land tax they will eventually lose it to one of those 12 players ( most probably the richer ones who can afford 2+ new plots of land at any moment, probably around 7-8 players who can afford multiple retail stores if they wanted to). And if the rich players get all the land it will accumulate at the higher networths again and they won't be sold because it's only $50 tax with construction and again they will be made artificially scarce as you said and the process repeats again.
I nor Bharat are not trying to justify the system but the system cannot be fixed unless admin removws the 21 day tax system (which could happen? But probably not ) and after removing the tax he needs to add many plots so the price crashes and every player can get land (but it's useless if they can't afford construction which is still 60k). And if he does all this then land would be worthless too tho, and obviously the rich players will still get alot more land then the lower networth players.
So basically I agree that land is not worth 200k, also according to the game it adds 145k networth per plot of land (it is not last traded value as last one sold for 200k and previously some have sold for 250k (sold and bought by xdcd, idk why he did that but it did not increase that time)).
Also what's stopping xdcd from just buying land from everyone after land gets added? Because if new players get land for 40k-60k then xdcd can easily just buy it from them for like 120k because either ways most players can't afford the construction and xdcd probably has so much money stored up. So no matter what you do the top rich players will always get the land and the bottom won't get the land
I'm not saying that new land shouldn't be added or land should not be cheap and accessible but I'm saying it's just not possible for the lower networth players to get it, if you have any ideas on how it can be made possible you can just send those ideas, as at the moment I can't think of an approach to actually make it accessible, so if you do send admin can see the ideas too.
