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shadowlord52   VIP
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Share buybacks:

To encourage purchasing and trading of the institutions, I personally will be repurchasing a limited number of shares for 2X the shares book value each month. The offers will be on the exchange, and it is hoped this will increase investor confidence knowing that someone will repurchase shares rather than them being an asset they cannot sell.

It is also hoped that this will increase share value, considering the lower supply and higher yield (2X the actual growth), and the increase in price will leave gaps for our current investors to sell and buy.

Also note: Dividends will continue as they have been, maybe some increases when sales are completed.

Also plans to sell the remaining 50 shares to total 1% of the institutions sold are being thought through. The price will not be low or threaten the investors share value.

As always, a pleasure to be on this journey with our investors and strive for a brighter and fairer future.
spacetinker   VIP
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Quoting shadowlord52:
Share buybacks:

To encourage purchasing and trading of the institutions, I personally will be repurchasing a limited number of shares for 2X the shares book value each month. The offers will be on the exchange, and it is hoped this will increase investor confidence knowing that someone will repurchase shares rather than them being an asset they cannot sell.

It is also hoped that this will increase share value, considering the lower supply and higher yield (2X the actual growth), and the increase in price will leave gaps for our current investors to sell and buy.

Also note: Dividends will continue as they have been, maybe some increases when sales are completed.

Also plans to sell the remaining 50 shares to total 1% of the institutions sold are being thought through. The price will not be low or threaten the investors share value.

As always, a pleasure to be on this journey with our investors and strive for a brighter and fairer future.


How much will the Price be?
shadowlord52   VIP
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Quoting spacetinker:
How much will the Price be?


For the repurchase, 2X the companies value. The companies value is dependent on the company's performance (hopefully good right?) but is also dependent on the markets.

For the price I am selling at? Might change it, but I almost hope other people buy and sell the shares when it becomes more desirable and maybe if players increase.
lucius   VIP
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Quoting shadowlord52:
For the repurchase, 2X the companies value. The companies value is dependent on the company's performance (hopefully good right?) but is also dependent on the markets.

For the price I am selling at? Might change it, but I almost hope other people buy and sell the shares when it becomes more desirable and maybe if players increase.


Qestion how did you IPO if the company is below 200k
shadowlord52   VIP
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Quoting lucius:
Qestion how did you IPO if the company is below 200k


The water manipulation thing put it above 200k (not me who did it)
lucius   VIP
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Quoting shadowlord52:
The water manipulation thing put it above 200k (not me who did it)


interesting
shadowlord52   VIP
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For investor confidence:

I promise to remain an active CEO of the institutions until at least October. After that point, I will likely continue to remain CEO.

Investors interests are at the heart of our business, so we would like it if any investors gave advice on what they would like to see happen to the institutions. Obviously as CEO and majority owner, I have the authority to decline any suggestions. However, it would be great to hear from shareholders with suggestions!

What are my goals with the institutions?

Currently we are slowly transferring shares of shadowholdings to shadowlords holdings. This is to free up cash and allow us to be what we promise, an investment and trading company on the exchange.

How much free cash has the institutions currently got?

Practically none. It is all invested to make the company money.

So here is a question to the shareholders:

Should the dividends of $100/day continue? Or should the money be kept in the company to make more money instead with a higher, irregular dividend payout whenever is needed?

We value your opinion and trust in the institutions to deliver a fair and trustworthy investment.
shaan   VIP
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Quoting shadowlord52:
For investor confidence:

I promise to remain an active CEO of the institutions until at least October. After that point, I will likely continue to remain CEO.

Investors interests are at the heart of our business, so we would like it if any investors gave advice on what they would like to see happen to the institutions. Obviously as CEO and majority owner, I have the authority to decline any suggestions. However, it would be great to hear from shareholders with suggestions!

What are my goals with the institutions?

Currently we are slowly transferring shares of shadowholdings to shadowlords holdings. This is to free up cash and allow us to be what we promise, an investment and trading company on the exchange.

How much free cash has the institutions currently got?

Practically none. It is all invested to make the company money.

So here is a question to the shareholders:

Should the dividends of $100/day continue? Or should the money be kept in the company to make more money instead with a higher, irregular dividend payout whenever is needed?

We value your opinion and trust in the institutions to deliver a fair and trustworthy investment.


 I think the $100/day dividend should probably change.

Not because dividends are bad, but because a fixed dividend can become a bad habit. If the company has a great opportunity to make money, why should it still be forced to take $100 out every day just because that's the payout  ?

If the goal is for Shadowlord’s Holdings to become a proper investment/trading company, I’d rather see the capital stay inside and compound.

I would like to see you probably do something like:

• Keep a small base dividend so shareholders still get something.

• Reinvest the majority of the profits.

• If there’s a really good opportunity, keep more capital working instead of paying it out.

• When the company has a really strong period or realizes a big profit, pay a larger special dividend.

That also makes the dividend more meaningful. Instead of shareholders getting the same $100 every day regardless of performance, the payout actually reflects how well the company is doing..

And I think the bigger thing is: don’t improve for dividends, improve for the value of the company.

If keeping $10k in the company can realistically turn it into $15k, taking that $10k out just to maintain a daily payout doesn't really help shareholders in the long run...

But if the money is being retained... I think shareholders should also know where it's going. Not necessarily every single trade, but enough transparency to know that the money is actually being put to work and not just sitting there...

So personally, i'll prefer

small predictable dividend + aggressive reinvestment + occasional bigger dividends when it actually makes sense.

That gives shareholders something thatt keeps the company growing, and gives you the flexibility to take good opportunities when they come.

At the end of the day, I don't think the question should be “How much are we getting paid today ?

It should be “Is the company becoming more valuable because we are leaving the money in ?

If the answer is yes, I'd happily take the smaller dividend today...

But yeah, this is just my opinion.... You’re the one leading us and you’re the one with the bigger picture, so ultimately I trust you to make the call.
shadowlord52   VIP
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Quoting shaan:
I think the $100/day dividend should probably change.

Not because dividends are bad, but because a fixed dividend can become a bad habit. If the company has a great opportunity to make money, why should it still be forced to take $100 out every day just because that's the payout  ?

If the goal is for Shadowlord’s Holdings to become a proper investment/trading company, I’d rather see the capital stay inside and compound.

I would like to see you probably do something like:

• Keep a small base dividend so shareholders still get something.

• Reinvest the majority of the profits.

• If there’s a really good opportunity, keep more capital working instead of paying it out.

• When the company has a really strong period or realizes a big profit, pay a larger special dividend.

That also makes the dividend more meaningful. Instead of shareholders getting the same $100 every day regardless of performance, the payout actually reflects how well the company is doing..

And I think the bigger thing is: don’t improve for dividends, improve for the value of the company.

If keeping $10k in the company can realistically turn it into $15k, taking that $10k out just to maintain a daily payout doesn't really help shareholders in the long run...

But if the money is being retained... I think shareholders should also know where it's going. Not necessarily every single trade, but enough transparency to know that the money is actually being put to work and not just sitting there...

So personally, i'll prefer

small predictable dividend + aggressive reinvestment + occasional bigger dividends when it actually makes sense.

That gives shareholders something thatt keeps the company growing, and gives you the flexibility to take good opportunities when they come.

At the end of the day, I don't think the question should be “How much are we getting paid today ?

It should be “Is the company becoming more valuable because we are leaving the money in ?

If the answer is yes, I'd happily take the smaller dividend today...

But yeah, this is just my opinion.... You’re the one leading us and you’re the one with the bigger picture, so ultimately I trust you to make the call.


From other feedback, I agree. Dividends will no longer be paid and instead the money reinvested to compound.

As for transparency, I am in the process of very slowly selling shadowholdings to shadowlords holdings. I am also working to close down the other two investment companies and transfer all funds into the institutions so everyone can see exactly what transactions happen.

Feel free to look at history and stuff, but I do not add/remove money from the system. Well apart from once in an attempt to transfer electricity but then removed it because it was a futile effort.

From a selfish point of view, it would make sense to pay dividends so I would be able to repurchase shadowholdings faster. But from the position of CEO, not paying dividends is the smarter move.
shadowlord52   VIP
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Major restructure of the institutions!

Following feedback from shareholders, the push was made to close the other trading companies and transfer all assets and funds to the institutions. Now, all that remains is shadowholdings, which is in the unfortunately slow and gradual process of being sold back to shadowlords holdings.

It is hoped that this will improve the ability to see financial history and make the institutions more open and trustworthy.

Any further feedback and suggestions are always appreciated.
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